Comments on: The Misconceptions of Spiritual Politics

By: Jason Carr

Jason Carr — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:46:54 +0000

Hahaha lol…oh yes; how could I forget?

By: Barry Cain

Barry Cain — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:29:14 +0000

Who are you trying to kid Reese like most kids runs his own dictatorship lol

By: Jason Carr

Jason Carr — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:54:03 +0000

Kids tend to prefer a less strict environment, so I would expect he’s probably a Democrat at this point… ;)

By: Amber Carr

Amber Carr — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:18:41 +0000

I wonder what Reese thinks about all this… :)

By: Jason Carr

Jason Carr — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:56:59 +0000

Barry, in a lot of ways, I think we're actually arguing much the same point, just from a slightly different perspective. My argument is simply that I'm surrounded by people who are politically stupid, and yet seem passionate about their political party association, for no other reason than it's the party that they "belong to."

Lately, it's come to the point where I cannot attend a series of Bible studies without hearing an Obama bash or a comment on how terrible the Dems are at running the country. And, of course, it's all based on the lies, propaganda, and hatred spread by the Republican party.

The passion I'm seeing is not based on any kind of intelligent thought; it's simply people trying to be cool and fit in by finding an easy target. Either that or it's some kind of superiority complex with people who are too misinformed or stupid to be able to separate Christianity from the Republican party.

Either way, agreed, people seem to be dumber than ever when it comes to their political views, and perhaps even their core values. Thanks very much for your comments, Barry. You can "ruffle my feathers" any time. ;)

By: Barry Cain

Barry Cain — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:52:10 +0000

Good article Jason. your use of the graphic is top notch. I did want to state an opinion here that will probably ruffle some feathers out there.
I think your worried about something that these days exists in theory only. True democrats the strong left wing, And true Republicans the strong right wing, no longer exists.
You got kids out there “Rocking the vote” And who do these fresh out of high school uneducated voters follow???? They certainly don’t care what the views on the family values are. Or what a party supports on an ethical level. Or even basic economic stands. Sorry to break it to you brother but they vote for who their favorite DJ tells them to, Or who has the best clothing, or the one who’s kids are coolest. They cast their votes based on what their parents say around the house. And they bundle it all in a neat package that they call free thinking and place a bow on top of and say they are independents.
And most adults are just as bad they are so middle of the road and PC they can’t make an educated decision on what brand of toilet paper to use, never less pick a government official or vote on an issue with any real thought or guidance from a party affiliation. Left and right do not exist in the USA anymore except for maybe a handful of peeps.
But its not just politics, religion has gone the same way. We have preachers out there afraid to teach the word of God without softening it down so people won’t get scared. They wont take a stand on sin for fear of offending people. And taking a middle of the road stance. People need to know that hell is real, They need to know that your going to burn forever. They need to know about the maggots and the screaming. And if it scares em then good. People need to know that God, for lack of a better term ,has a nasty temper when you anger him. They need to know both sides of the coin the good and the bad. I get sick to death of hearing different preachers out there only preaching about the love and goodness. People have lost their fear of God, and the reverence and awe of his mighty power and wrath. WOW I wonder if there is a correlation between the two?
Before people will be able to vote based on core values, they will have to get some.

By: Jason Carr

Jason Carr — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:08:28 +0000

We'll have to discuss some of the political perspectives in person, honey. Obviously, we don't and never have seen entirely eye-to-eye in our political views. I do appreciate the fact that you approach these things from a fairly open perspective.

I will say though, that though it seems that the right side details are fairly brutal, the left side details are brutal as well. There's more than one thing that makes me a little bit uneasy, but after pondering them for a short while, I've found them to be true of typical liberal views. And as far as rewording things on the conservative side, you can soften the words behind the facts, but you can't remove their truths.

By: Amber Carr

Amber Carr — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:52:15 +0000

The belief section other than the society part, I agree with the right side… but there are exceptions. I can go into detail if you want to talk to me in person. I’m right in the middle on Family and rearing children. I believe both are necessary. Good to be progressive, but not forgetting the past and not making the same mistakes. I don’t know if I like the idea of the government interfering with society and society’s lives too much… wouldn’t want it to take away our freedom and have total control. Less taxes would be nice, but I do understand why we need them… It would be nice if the “people” could decide how the government spends the taxes. And so much more that I don’t really feel like going into… cuz.. I’m lazy! haha!
I can tell you that I’m pretty sure a conservative would have worded the right side a little differently and you should get some feedback from someone who sides more with the conservatives.

By: Jason Carr

Jason Carr — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:58:11 +0000

Dad, that's a good point that the problem exists on the other end of the spectrum as well (particularly regarding homosexuality), though I have to believe it's slightly less damaging in that direction since the overall attitude is one of acceptance instead of one of exclusivity. Still, prideful extremes and the inability to accept anything but entire liberalism or entire conservatism is certainly a large part of the problem here.

I do believe that a party-less system would be a significantly improved approach to politics, even if it makes it slightly more difficult to determine the views of the candidates. It would be interesting to see, however, how much the blind following of political parties would instead be transferred over to the blind following of political candidates (though at least one would have to put forth an effort to learn what that candidate was about). I wonder what it would take for such a system to be implemented here...

By: Jason Carr

Jason Carr — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:24:08 +0000

Karrie, it is so frustrating to put forth so much effort in trying to witness or share the truth only to be shot down by a blind ego (and yet, it's so unbelievably common). Still, yes, we can praise the Lord in that we can shake the dust off of our feet and move on knowing that we are not responsible for the actions of others around us, and praise God once more that we know the truth.

It's still tough to swallow all of the damage that a misinformed Christian (or non-Christian for that matter) can cause...

I need to have more hope that my words can actually be used to convince someone of the truth. I've been shot down so much that I've almost given up on the approach; I'm almost convinced that the only way to share the truth is through love and actions, and that words are entirely useless. Still, I know that I have planted seeds where I didn't receive immediate gratification, and I'll never know the affects that I've had.

It continues to boggle my mind how a party based off of such destructive principles is the more accepted "Christian" party, and how it can blind so many, many people. I doubt it, but perhaps we're seeing the beginning of the cracking open of some of the lies...